Yep, the false notion of two sides that must somehow be balanced has a lot to answer for.
The BBC can do debates when there is genuinely an unclear issue. When there is an expert giving their opinion, there should be no opportunity for challenge from a loudmouthed simpleton from Tufton Street, or other propaganda factory du jour.
As for the problem of who decides what is factual, ensure the BBC can be sued pro bono, and let the courts decide what is true, as usual.
TIL of the German word “raus”, which a quick internet search says means “out”, “away”, or “free”, and now I wonder if I’d been missing much of the meaning of the title of the graphic novel Maus
@ShadSterling German native speaker here and let me tell you that "raus" in no context means "free". In the context of this cartoon it's short for "get out of here NOW!" Maybe with some more exclamation marks. @Natasha_Jay
I gave up on the BBC a long time ago. Not even the World Service is worthy my attention anymore.
I cannot believe that the public service broadcaster of my youth has turned into yet another news service fawning to the extreme right-wing concept of "balance" in reporting.
The cartoon clearly illustrates how that kind of "balance" works in practice.
@the_wub I got furious about their "balance" regarding the environment in the 1990s... then completely gave up on the BBC because of their "balanace" around the Brexit referendum.
Churchill était un partisan de l'"ordre" et préférait maintenir des monarchies autoritaires qui réprimait les révoltes sociales plutôt que de soutenir les demandes plus démocratiques. Sa vision était de défendre et agir pour l'Empire britannique. Je pense que c'est un très mauvais choix que de le poser en antithèse d'Hitler.
Considering what the Nazis did, Hitler is even scarier when you understand German. I've been teaching myself the German language, as a British person.
Non-speakers hear Hitler and to them it sounds like a lunatic thug shouting wildly into a microphone.
When you start to understand the words, you hear that he says at the start of each speech, something like: "Ladies and gentleman, fellow compatriots,", followed by numerous references to then-current affairs - he sounds like Trump.
![Cartoon by Stephen Collins for The Guardian. Script as follows: [scene is Winston Churchill in a bbc studio, giving his 'finest hour' speech]
1 CHURCHILL: The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us.
2 CHURCHILL: Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this Island or lose the war.
3 CHURCHILL: If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sun- BBC PRESENTER: Thank you prime minister
4 BBC PRESENTER: Mr hitler, your response?
5 HITLER [in the studio]: Vell zis is hysterical woke nonsense as usual from mr Churchill
6 HITLER: What we are proposing - CHURCHILL: Hang on
7 HITLER: Let me finish - what we are proposing eez a simple power-sharing arrangement -
8 CHURCHILL: What's he doing here
BBC PRESENTER: It's important we hear both sides of the debate
9 CHURCHILL: This isn't a debate You don't debate fascists
10 HITLER: Oh here we go with ze Godwins law!
11 HITLER: Why must you people always compare ze things you don't like to 'fascists, Nazis, Hitler'...
CHURCHILL: Because you are a fascist Nazi Hit-
12 HITLER [standing up, saluting]: RAUSS!
BBC PRESENTER: *Please* Mr Churchill let him speak [ends]](https://friend.enby-box.de/photo/preview/640/7037845 "Cartoon by Stephen Collins for The Guardian. Script as follows: [scene is Winston Churchill in a bbc studio, giving his 'finest hour' speech]
1 CHURCHILL: The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us.
2 CHURCHILL: Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this Island or lose the war.
3 CHURCHILL: If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sun- BBC PRESENTER: Thank you prime minister
4 BBC PRESENTER: Mr hitler, your response?
5 HITLER [in the studio]: Vell zis is hysterical woke nonsense as usual from mr Churchill
6 HITLER: What we are proposing - CHURCHILL: Hang on
7 HITLER: Let me finish - what we are proposing eez a simple power-sharing arrangement -
8 CHURCHILL: What's he doing here
BBC PRESENTER: It's important we hear both sides of the debate
9 CHURCHILL: This isn't a debate You don't debate fascists
10 HITLER: Oh here we go with ze Godwins law!
11 HITLER: Why must you people always compare ze things you don't like to 'fascists, Nazis, Hitler'...
CHURCHILL: Because you are a fascist Nazi Hit-
12 HITLER [standing up, saluting]: RAUSS!
BBC PRESENTER: *Please* Mr Churchill let him speak [ends]")
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Als Antwort auf Natasha Jay 🇪🇺 • • •Yep, the false notion of two sides that must somehow be balanced has a lot to answer for.
The BBC can do debates when there is genuinely an unclear issue. When there is an expert giving their opinion, there should be no opportunity for challenge from a loudmouthed simpleton from Tufton Street, or other propaganda factory du jour.
As for the problem of who decides what is factual, ensure the BBC can be sued pro bono, and let the courts decide what is true, as usual.
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Als Antwort auf ShadSterling • • •German native speaker here and let me tell you that "raus" in no context means "free".
In the context of this cartoon it's short for "get out of here NOW!" Maybe with some more exclamation marks.
@Natasha_Jay
Jaddy
Als Antwort auf Carola Ottenburg • •@Carola Ottenburg @ShadSterling @Natasha Jay 🇪🇺 „German native speaker here and let me tell you that "raus" in no context means "free“.“
with the slight exception of „Ich bin raus!“, meaning „I'm out (of this sh..)“ = „I’m free of it“.
But as vocative or imperative, it always means an extremely rude „get out of here“.
ShadSterling mag das.
DonCC
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Als Antwort auf Natasha Jay 🇪🇺 • • •I gave up on the BBC a long time ago. Not even the World Service is worthy my attention anymore.
I cannot believe that the public service broadcaster of my youth has turned into yet another news service fawning to the extreme right-wing concept of "balance" in reporting.
The cartoon clearly illustrates how that kind of "balance" works in practice.
mossman
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As a trans woman you can imagine my opinion of the BBC. Actually, no, you can't 🤬
Celtillos
Als Antwort auf Natasha Jay 🇪🇺 • • •Sa vision était de défendre et agir pour l'Empire britannique.
Je pense que c'est un très mauvais choix que de le poser en antithèse d'Hitler.
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Als Antwort auf Natasha Jay 🇪🇺 • • •Can we do this for Germany, please?
This is so spot-on.
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Als Antwort auf Natasha Jay 🇪🇺 • • •Considering what the Nazis did, Hitler is even scarier when you understand German. I've been teaching myself the German language, as a British person.
Non-speakers hear Hitler and to them it sounds like a lunatic thug shouting wildly into a microphone.
When you start to understand the words, you hear that he says at the start of each speech, something like: "Ladies and gentleman, fellow compatriots,", followed by numerous references to then-current affairs - he sounds like Trump.