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One thing that really pisses me off personally is the #regression in terms of #Messenger #Apps.
My personal distaste and dislike for #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #services like #Signal ¹, #Telegram, #Discord ², #WhatsApp, #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, etc. aside:
- WHY is there no #CrossProvider #Messenger to handle that shite?
- WHY does everyone of these shitty providers think people want to download their #bloated #WebApp that takes up triple digit Megabytes if not entire Gigabytes and will gobble up all the #RAM and #CPU they can??
This problem ain't new and already got solved for corporate social media ages ago! (Not to mention actually good messengers!)
- And no, bridges don't count!
- I mean
API 0
- style access because obviously none of the platforms will allow, endorse or support such an endeavour and actively fight the developers and users !
So yeah, consider this a call for a @gajim / #Gajim or @pidgin / #Pidgin for garbage platforms!
- Cuz back in the day we had way worse messengers yet people actually made #AIM, #ICQ, #MSN, #QQ, #IRC & #XMPP work just fine from one single "phat" client!
- Can we please get that back?
Dalai (@dalai@toots.ch)
Attached: 1 image @kkarhan@infosec.space @FandaSin@social.linux.pizza Why not use Matrix and bridge the other Messenger into it? I'm a Matrix only kid, so i don't have anything to bridge, but it's possible https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/Toots
There is always API 0: acting like a human/browser/user.The first API is "fuck you I'm doing it anyway". Any additional API the program provides is merely a helpful shortcut
#whatsapp
#irc
#messenger
#apps
#signal
#enshittification
#xmpp
#microsoftteams
#discord
#services
#telegram
#ram
#gajim
#icq
#Slack
#msn
#regression
#qq
#pidgin
#singlevendor
#singleprovider
#proprietary
#webapp
#cpu
#crossprovider
#bloated
#api0
#aim
@Gajim
@Pidgin Instant Messenger
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Kevin Karhan
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •Also didn't @EUCommission mandate #Compatibility & #Portability between these #Platforms?
infosec.space/@kkarhan/1148625…
#DMA
Also didn't @EUCommission mandate #Compatibility & #Portability between these #Platforms?
infosec.space/@kkarhan/1148625…
#DMA
Kevin Karhan
2025-07-16 11:08:37
Kevin Karhan
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan • • •It's really fucking sad that #CryptoBros did "solve" that problem with #middleware like #MetaMask.
And when #Ethereum - Fans run circles around those big platforms you know how #cursed that #
... mehr anzeigenIt's really fucking sad that #CryptoBros did "solve" that problem with #middleware like #MetaMask.
And when #Ethereum - Fans run circles around those big platforms you know how #cursed that #TechStack is...
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2025-07-16 11:08:37
Drezil
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan • • •Kevin Karhan
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •Like: There's not much of a technical reason something similar to @zulip 's #TUI - based client could exit.
If people can build #bots for shite like #discord, #Telegram, etc. then why not make an actually good client ???
Creating A Python Discord Bot - A Complete Step-by-Step Guide - AskPython
Shreya Bose (Rnzo1zWtYm)Kevin Karhan
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •We have @EUCommission [rightfully!] crack down on #cars and their #emissions by demanding ever lower #FleetEmissions and #FuelConsumption numbers but still accept #Bloatware like shitty #WebApps and #Windows11 to demand so much #WastefulComputing that it's painful.
#WastefulComputing like all those phat & enshittified messengers should be illegal.
Kevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)
Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan • • •For those who don't know the size of the problem:
In 2006 I bought a new [entry level] Computer with 256 MB of RAM and a single-core P4 Celeron with 2,8 GHz.
And now imagine that some folks have to use #Slack, #
... mehr anzeigenFor those who don't know the size of the problem:
In 2006 I bought a new [entry level] Computer with 256 MB of RAM and a single-core P4 Celeron with 2,8 GHz.
And now imagine that some folks have to use #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, #Telegram, #Signal, #WhatApp, #WeChat, #QQ and #LineMessenger at the same time on their machine, and you can imagine that this will make entry-level desktops already scream harder than if someone were to loop the Lost Coast benchmark on them...
Kevin Karhan
2025-07-16 11:08:37
Kevin Karhan
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan • • •I mean, these ain't like in the old days where a few Megabytes got you #Pidgin and other Multi-Protocol Clients of the old days where everyone had to implement bespoke, custom and incompatible and *often completely undocumented, proprietary * protocols like #ICQ, #AIM, #SIPE, etc.
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Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Kevin Karhan
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan • • •It just makes me wounder: Are modern messengers these days complicated or do the people who have the talent to write such a #MultiProtocolIM chosen that this is stupid and that like myself they'd never touch that shite in their life and make peace with it?
Kevin Karhan
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •And it's not like people and espechally businesses are unwilling to pay for good tools, cuz not only is HootSuite still around, but @tapbots, who made the excellent TweetBot nowadays make @ivory, an excellent #ActivityPub client with focus on #Mastodon that people are willing to pay a #subscription for!
tapbots.com/ivory/
Ivory for iOS
Tapbots, LLC.Drezil
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •Kevin Karhan
Als Antwort auf Drezil • • •@Drezil I'm glad I don't have to use that.stuff.