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So I‘m just collecting stuff here.

The 22-year-old who allegedly shot Charlie Kirk came from a full-blown #MAGA family. His relationship with them was so good that he confessed the murder to his father who then turned him in.

That would stand in contrast with Robinson's family. They have yet to make a formal statement to the media, but authorities said it was Tyler's father, Matt Robinson, who convinced him to turn himself in.
Tyler's grandmother, Debbie Robinson, 69, told the Daily Mail on Friday that the 48-year-old father is a Trump supporter.
"My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump, she told the outlet. "Most of my family members are Republican. I don't know any single one who's a Democrat."

#MAGA

Jaddy mag das.

teilten dies erneut

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Christian Stöcker

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He and an unnamed „family member“ both talked about how they didn‘t like Charlie Kirk‘s politics shortly before the shooting. Weirdly, the Governor of Utah left out in what way exactly they disagreed with Kirk.

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Christian Stöcker

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He repeatedly went, at Halloween, dressed as very online memes that bear at least a connection to groyper culture, the „movement“ instigated by Nick Fuentes, aiming to push the American right even further to the right.

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Christian Stöcker

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Fuentes instigated the „groyper wars“, sending his followers to specifically target Charlie Kirk and his Fans, heckling Kirk at events with antisemitic and anti-gay questions, amongst other things. This started in 2019. The Halloween costumes above are from 2017 and 2018.

Charlie Kirk's Culture War, Groypers, Nickers and Q&A-trolling
Ico Maly

Rapid Social and Cultural Transformation: Online & Offline
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Since mid-October, Charlie Kirk’s Culture War college tour has been increasingly haunted by the Groyper and nicker Groyper Q&A trolls. These offline trolls use the Q&A-sessions that are part of the Culture War show format to frame Charlie Kirk as a fake, 'anti-white' conservative. A new chapter in the alt-right's cultural war re-emerges in full force.

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Christian Stöcker

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For some reason „Bella Ciao“, which really IS an antifascist anthem but also special content in the first person shooter „Far Cry 6“, is on the „Groyper Wars (America First)“ playlist on spotify. I checked. The avatar of the account curating that list is a pepe the frog image.

Screenshot Groyper wars playlist including „Bella Ciao“ (HUGEL remix)

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Christian Stöcker

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“Hey fascist! CATCH! (up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols)“ doesn‘t „speak for itself“, as Utah Governor Cox claimed quicky - unless you are familiar with the game „Helldivers 2“ that this arrow meme originated from. knowyourmeme.com/memes/eagle-5…

Eagle 500kg Bomb ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

Eagle 500kg Bomb is a stratagem in the 2024 video game Helldivers II. A powerful singular explosive charged dropped by air support, Eagle 500kg Bomb deals exceptional damage in a small area.

^{Philipp (Know Your Meme)}

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Christian Stöcker

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The same goes for all the other memes scratched on the bullet casings - they are all ironic nods to the terminally online mostly male audience the shooter seems to have intended as his core target audience. garbageday.email/p/charlie-kir…

Charlie Kirk was killed by a meme

Making sense of our dark new era of extremely online political violence

^{Garbage Day}

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Christian Stöcker

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Judging from the above, it is safe to say that the 22-year old Mormon gamer and gun nut who seems to love his MAGA family was not „deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology" as Utah‘s governor claimed, without evidence. He was something else entirely.

Martin Marheinecke hat dies geteilt.

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Christian Stöcker

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What exactly remains to be seen. I hope the investigators do a proper job of it (although current FBI leadership doesn‘t inspire much trust in that regard). Online sleuths will eventually find more I‘ll wager. „The radical left“ most likely had nothing to do with this though.

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Bindestrich

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he is 100% a groyper. Apart from a letter saying so it's hard to imagine how the shooter could have made his affiliations more clear to his fellows. Which is the important part, these messages are not for us.

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ClemensG

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@Bindestriche

Which letter are you referring to? (Please include the link.)

So far, I haven't seen any conclusive evidence that Kirk was a Fuentes supporter. Have I overlooked something?

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Wilfried Klaebe

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@clemensg I think @Bindestriche is talking about a hypothetical letter that would be the only thing making their affiliation more clear.

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sonja dolinsek

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please for the sake of fact-checking and Nachvollziehbarkeit, post links to all the screenshots! I will not boost anything without proper link!

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Christian Stöcker

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@sonjdol

time.com/7317032/tyler-robinso…

washingtonpost.com/nation/2025…

research.tilburguniversity.edu…

The rest are links. I will not post the mother‘s facebook profile.

Charlie Kirk's Culture War, Groypers, Nickers and Q&A-trolling

^{Tilburg University Research Portal}

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sonja dolinsek

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thanks. But obviously these links are most useful in the posts with the screenshots. This isn't a personal favour to me.

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Christian Stöcker

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@sonjdol „thanks“ would have been sufficient.

@sonja dolinsek

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sonja dolinsek

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not sure. Most people here prefer to boost posts with links and sources ...but please, it's your account. Do as you wish.

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Christian Stöcker

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@sonjdol Look: These Screenshots either contain quotes that are all over any mainstream reporting on this case, the first one even quoting the source (the Daily Mail) (also: Just copy the alt text and google it if you choose not to trust me) or they contain the name of the source. I resent being lectured on online etiquette by you or anybody else. It‘s not like these are secret or hard to find pieces of information. If you have read anything on the subject you already knew them.

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sonja dolinsek

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you could have edited those posts in the precious time you've spend justifying not doing so to me. But ok, you've got priorities.
Also, I know I can google this stuff, I am not blöd, but I do not want to have to google every screenshot without source people post. I have a life, you know. You make a thread, you are a journalist and know how sources work. Add them. Ich verstehe beim besten Willen nicht, wie man so viel Unwillen zeigen kann, ein paar Links hinzuzufügen.

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sonja dolinsek

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aber by the way, I am not lecturing, just telling you how I feel about those posts as a follower. But I guess it's time to change that now. I also wonder whether you would have reacted differentlyy if I was a man. Sexism after all is on the rise again and supposedly progressive men increasingly seem unable to respect women. Goodbye

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Christian Stöcker

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@sonjdol you could look up how I respond to being lectured by men. Good bye.

@sonja dolinsek

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Christian Stöcker

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@sonjdol Also: This is a multi-platform post, which is why it looks the way it looks (screenshots plus links in one post don‘t work equally well everywhere). I did you a favor when you asked. You are the only person with this complaint on 5 different platforms. Your response was to lecture me.

@sonja dolinsek

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padeluun ⁂

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Sagen wir mal so: obwohl’s mich interessiert, habe ich Deine Posts nicht gelesen. Das werden wohl etliche so gemacht haben und sich gedacht haben „sprich mit der Hand“. Nur Sonja war so nett, Dir eine Response zu senden. Ich liebe Vernetzung ja eigentlich dafür, dass man voneinander lernen kann.

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Isarblues

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layer8.space/@crk5/11519946116…

crkⓋ

2025-09-13 22:57:58

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Orlaya

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If you don't want to support Fuentes don't click on it. But this illustrates this #groyper wars thing.

Looks like cringy satire, but read the comments before the incident and other videos posted by this channel.

youtube.com/watch?v=j2Twh88BHD…

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

^{www.youtube.com}

#Groyper

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Ritschi Alpenstern 🏔️💫

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Does it even exist in US? Or is it just a word for everyone who doesn’t support Trump?

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Sebastian Lasse

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meanwhile the #US correspondent of Germanys Public Broadcaster @ZDF Elmar Theveßen is threatened by a visa revocation cause #Kirk and now he is exposed to a fascist shitstorm.

[DE]tagesspiegel.de/internationale…

#rechtsextremismus #faschismus #fascism #uspol

Nach Rassismus-Vorwurf gegen Kirk: Trump-Vertrauter Grenell fordert Visum-Entzug für ZDF-Korrespondenten Theveßen

Der Korrespondent für die USA des ZDF, Elmar Theveßen, steht wegen Aussagen über den ermordeten Charlie Kirk in der Kritik. Auch der US-Vizeaußenminister reagiert auf den Fall.

^{Der Tagesspiegel}

#rechtsextremismus #fascism #faschismus #us #USpol #kirk @ZDF

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Bindestrich

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the reason is to trigger the libs by using their song ironically, it's part of groyper culture

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Bindestrich

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reddit.com/r/politics/s/LHLPu6… bella ciao is used as a battle cry by groypers apparently. They know it from the Netflix show , the meaning of the original was lost on them, when discovered they liked that as it confuses people

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Lutterjohann

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was jetzt in USA abgeht, erinnert mich fatal an das, was 1933 nach dem Reichstagsbrand in Deutschland abging. Die Zündschnur ist gelegt.

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