I don't disagree, just a quite reminder that not everyone can afford this. The meme doesn't say it but it gives "money doesn't buy happiness" vibes and while this isn't false, a certain amount of money is required for this.
In capitalism, one must first pay for basic necessities like food and shelter before anything else. For some people who make low wages this requires an amount of time and effort that interferes with their leisure time.
That said, there are also some people who think they are in this category when in reality their stress is due to self-imposed standards of living that are higher than necessary. Or anxiety and other psychological problems that could be addressed through non-material strategies.
there are also some people who think they are in this category when in reality their stress is due to self-imposed standards of living that are higher than necessary. Or anxiety and other psychological problems that could be addressed through non-material strategies.
also encouraged and exacerbated by capitalism (the former - to create the illusion of a "middle class" for people to aspire to and vote against their own actual material conditions, the latter - by commodifying health care and pathologizing anything that harms "productivity")
How much money does one need to not have to choose between spending their evenings on a long walk listening to birds vs delivering pizzas as a third job to avoid eviction?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the picture, but I thought that's why they were called luxuries - because not everyone gets to have them. Though they aren't what we usually associate with a luxurious lifestyle.
E: just to be clear, everyone should have them, but many are too occupied with the daily battle for survival.
I’d also add science - a subset of reading I suppose, but it can lead to experiments and theoretical models. I love it, costs me nothing (thanks Wiki supporters) and there’s still so much to learn and discover.
I agree these are the real luxuries but they CAN be supplemented by a little happy consumerism here and there. I love to have a good conversation with friends over a good lunch at a restaurant, or going to a nice dinner. Have meals out is a nice luxury also.
The weird thing about this is, a few of these things are rather hard once you have kids. Don't know the last time when I slept alone in my bed or had a slow morning. But well, you get other things in return, like the pure love of you children so it's fine haha.
That's because we destroyed the primitive communal family to create the nuclear family. Humans throughout most of history would raise their children collectively, rather than all the responsibility just being dumped directly onto the parents.
That's true, we also have the unfortunate situation that we don't have any relatives that could support us. All grand parents live at least ~5 hours away. Moving isn't really an option for my wife because of her work currently.
I'll substitute sunrise in place of sunset and remove naps because I rarely sleep during the day because it fucks up my circadian rhythm. Everything else is spot on.
Something about naps I discovered I that there is two kind of naps * short naps around 20-30min where you don't get any deep sleep * long naps around 1 or 2 full sleep cycles, so for most peoples 1.5 or 3 hours nap.
Waking up from a short nap should be easy and you should feel energized almost immediately, if its not the case it probably means that your body started a full sleep cycle.
So to be able to nap during the day we need to find a way to tell or body that this is just a short break and we are not going for a full sleep, usually sleeping somewhere different like the couch or in a different position in the bed
So, you live on a desert island? because if you don't, and you don't, there is plenty you can do about it... I guarantee that wherever you are, there is a supportive community to be a part of.
Oh yeah I'm part of a couple of fantastic support communities, but those take more time, not give it back to you. The independent time without a child is what has evaporated.
Why add a symbol that is almost solely used by totalitarian governments?
The hammer and sickle remains commonplace in self-declared socialist states, such as China, Cuba, North Korea, Laos, and Vietnam, but also some former Soviet republics following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, such as Belarus and Russia.
Are there any countries that use the symbol that are actually nice places to live with good governments?
Angola has made a conscious decision to stick to this symbol as if transitions to a liberal democracy and stable economy. There were some efforts to change the flag recently because as you said it's often associated with totalitarian regimes. But those efforts failed because to Angolans it symbolizes the Angolan triumph over the colonial oppression of Portugal and resistance to apartheid South African invasion.
It could change in the future, Angola is still moving towards "good government" and "nice place to live" as you said. But for now it remains their national flag.
Interesting. That being said I don't understand the lemmygrad peoples desire for the Hammer and sickle as a symbol. Like almost nothing good has come from it. Even in Angola it seems to be viewed as a somewhat tarnished period in their history.
I get what you mean, I'm helping to add nuance to the discussion. Also a bunch of white people coming in and telling Angolans what symbols they can and can't use to represent their triumph over colonialism and apartheid isn't a great look either.
Meaning is also contextual - different cultures put different meaning in symbols. To represent global ideas we need some consensus.
Baltic neo-pagans were rigtfully culturally suppressed from using swastika as "symbol of Sun". Hammer and sickle also signifies millions of deaths and decades of repressioms. It is even forbidden in some post soviet countries along with swastika. Lets find something less damaging to represent marxist ideas.
I think the only system to believe in here is sensitivity to feelings and histories of others. If you don't mind triggering literally millions of people whose families were hurt by soviets, it is your choice. And wouldn't you be against public display of swastikas if they are displayed by "neopagans" and supposedly symbolize Sun?
Do you ban them from museums? Textbooks? Documentaries? No because they are in an appropriate context. I would never wear or display a swastika and I feel disgusted to see one displayed by anyone with pride. Context and motive matter...
I can't tell if you're being ignorant or disingenuous. The Ⓐ should be a clue as to my opinion on government in general, no? As for ☭ - check the first sentence of the article you linked. Or the description written under it, for what I meant to invoke.
I am no USSR apologist. I just consider that symbol useful as a marker for worker solidarity.
I understand what it means, and I support what it is trying to do in theory. The problem is there has never been a government, to my knowledge, that has embraced the ideology that has not turned to corruption/totalitarianism. In these countries, the proletariat are deprived of their rights and fare far worse. That is what the hammer and sickle represents.
I'm happy to change my mind if an example can prove otherwise, but to my knowledge the most effective form of government is that of a social democracy, which is represented by a red rose.
The hammer and sickle (Unicode: U+262D ☭ ) is a communist symbol representing proletarian solidarity between agricultural and industrial workers.
This sentence is the entire and only reason I used that symbol. You have zero reason to continue to ask me for "good governments using this symbol". It is not a symbol of government. Communism is stateless, ergo no government. Just like anarchism.
The swastika is thus understood to be a symbol of auspiciousness and good fortune
Symbols can have meanings that are different than what they turn into. Hammer and sickle is almost unanimously considered to be a symbol of Stalin USSR totalitarian communism where millions perished.
a mother in ar who had kill her three kids, they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest. my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots
Yeah, truth. Nobody has complete freedom in a world of other people. I don't get to run around being an ax murderer, for example (not that I want to be). There are plenty of guardrails and rules and laws, many for good reason.
I'm on the fence about hearings birds singing. It is really annoying to get woken up way too early by a bird who just knows two tunes and sings it over and over and over again. Like what the fuck?! Didn't they teach you a third tune at bird school to make your song a bit more melodic and less irritating? Fucking twitter.
There's this big male cardinal who lives in my rhododendron. He's not the problem. The problem are the loud, brash younglings who show up and try to muscle in on his territory. They start before dawn, screaming at the top of a tree, making up for their lack of style with sheer volume.
Plus they sound like fucking car alarms. The Big Boy has a gorgeous call, and perches on the fence between the houses to take advantage of the acoustics, and starts at least an hour after dawn because no lady wants to be woken up early by a fuckboy.
He must be back early this year because there's only been one asshole bird who woke me up.
This. Especially in modern first-world nations. There are plenty of resources for the wealthy to still be wealthy and everyone to have at least economic security.
Fuck solarpunk. I buy carefully, not mindlessly, based on what I'm getting and for how long, with the intent of not having to replace what I buy. So let's get that out of the way, this isn't about the merits of environmental preservation or efficient use of our resources.
I need mass media because I ENJOY PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. I don't want to live in the fucking "gay space commune", I want to live in a world that feels good to me, and you solarpunk assholes seem to say people like me who escape from reality because they've NEVER been capable of supporting themselves should start a fucking garden?!
Newsflash. I. Don't. Like. Your. "Utopia". I never will. If you ever succeed in making your idea of a future a reality, I'll burn it to the fucking ground as my revenge on you bastards. I hate your idea because all it does is change how I am oppressed as a disabled adult to how I was oppressed as a special needs child illegally taken from my parents by a corrupt mental health system.
You want to see a real utopia? A place where everyone is happy in the world they live in
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Fuck solarpunk. I buy carefully, not mindlessly, based on what I'm getting and for how long, with the intent of not having to replace what I buy. So let's get that out of the way, this isn't about the merits of environmental preservation or efficient use of our resources.
I need mass media because I ENJOY PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. I don't want to live in the fucking "gay space commune", I want to live in a world that feels good to me, and you solarpunk assholes seem to say people like me who escape from reality because they've NEVER been capable of supporting themselves should start a fucking garden?!
Newsflash. I. Don't. Like. Your. "Utopia". I never will. If you ever succeed in making your idea of a future a reality, I'll burn it to the fucking ground as my revenge on you bastards. I hate your idea because all it does is change how I am oppressed as a disabled adult to how I was oppressed as a special needs child illegally taken from my parents by a corrupt mental health system.
You want to see a real utopia? A place where everyone is happy in the world they live in? Fucking find an oneirogenic drug that induces lucid dreams or create a VR metaverse.
Who I am in reality does not matter. Who I am in my mind can't be expressed in a solarpunk world, only online. At least that's how it used to be.
Why am I named the same as an Open Source Game? Cyperprep doesn't have to mean "the future megacorps are not so bad!" but rather "megacorps control this dystopian future but they can't always stop the signal and that means Open Source Software is the way to fight back".
The difference between FOSS for smart devices and social networks and FOSS for games is that games are art and that means paid food production will take precedence over volunteer video games.
And no, you don't get to say "get another hobby". I know myself. I like technology. I don't like preachy people. I stopped buying Apple when I stopped seeing unique-looking devices. I am a gamer. Most importantly, I am a sci-fi writer who wants optimistic stories that don't assume the reader is a fully-capable person.
I am not demanding you write what I want to see. Only that you not try to turn reality into it. If you see this, once again, fuck solarpunk.
So you think hurting people to make things the way you want them is acceptable? Because of video games? You are a dangerous man child (or maybe just a child).
Confirmation indeed. It's really too much to fucking ask that you NOT build another fucking prison? You, not me, are the sociopath. At least I reserve my angry rampage for if you succeed.
You judge me for liking what I like? You are literally trying to control my life by redefining society, and no, I'm not some rich skullfucker nor do I think people aren't entitled to the same basic level of comfort I enjoy regardless of race, gender, eromantic orientation or anything else; they may not have it, but if you wanted real equality then you NEED to uplift people's minimum living standard.
Apparently you care more about organic produce and trees than children or the homeless.
Who's talking about building a prison? You've imagined an enemy in solarpunk that has nothing to do with solarpunk and are getting upset at an internet stranger that has made no claims about wanting to stop you from playing video games.
Then don't build it and we're fine. I'm angry because I'm disabled and Solarpunk is usually Ableist yet everyone is obsessed with social media detox and lumping all technologies in with it.
How do I live the life I want to live in a setting that tells me I "don't really enjoy this, you're just brainwashed by capitalism" over and over? By fighting back.
You and the aesthetic (idea) you follow are not powerless and you desire a world I am excluded from, purely because the part of my life I enjoy most (the fulfilment of escapism) doesn't fit into that worldview. I am probably not going to change anything, but so be it I wanted my position to be clear. You propose taking away a life(style) that I enjoy, and I want to point out that is what you're proposing. I cannot hold a job, I have issues which are permanent and pervasive that exclude any existence in a community-focused world and if solarpunk will not accommodate that then I will not accommodate it. I can't kill an idea, nobody can, but maybe I can get people to realise that solarpunk is not about only good improvements, it has a dark side and that dark side is that there are innocent people who fall through the cracks when only "the greater good" is considered.
First I'll say I can't speak for others claiming to be "solarpunk", nobody owns this word. The following are my opinions of solarpunk.
Solarpunk isn't about forcing everyone to live within the aesthetic. Because solarpunk is an aesthetic it manifests mostly in art, but just because an element is not common in solarpunk art doesn't mean it's not welcome in what one might call a "solarpunk world".
You don't see goths wearing all black in solarpunk art either, that doesn't mean solarpunks want to ban goths. You are into escapism, that doesn't really lend itself to depictions of solarpunk art. Solarpunk art is about promoting some ideals, escapism (while not excluded) isn't one of those so why would it be included in the art?
If there is such a thing as a solarpunk ideology, it would be akin to anarcho-communism. Solarpunk/Anarcho-communism is not about exclusion. It's not about forcing everyone to sing kum ba ya or GTFO. A community based world isn't about forcing social interaction, it's about society being driven by the needs of the community rather than the ne
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First I'll say I can't speak for others claiming to be "solarpunk", nobody owns this word. The following are my opinions of solarpunk.
Solarpunk isn't about forcing everyone to live within the aesthetic. Because solarpunk is an aesthetic it manifests mostly in art, but just because an element is not common in solarpunk art doesn't mean it's not welcome in what one might call a "solarpunk world".
You don't see goths wearing all black in solarpunk art either, that doesn't mean solarpunks want to ban goths. You are into escapism, that doesn't really lend itself to depictions of solarpunk art. Solarpunk art is about promoting some ideals, escapism (while not excluded) isn't one of those so why would it be included in the art?
If there is such a thing as a solarpunk ideology, it would be akin to anarcho-communism. Solarpunk/Anarcho-communism is not about exclusion. It's not about forcing everyone to sing kum ba ya or GTFO. A community based world isn't about forcing social interaction, it's about society being driven by the needs of the community rather than the needs of a wealthy owner class, AND YOU ARE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY JUST AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE.
In the solarpunk world I want, you don't have to "earn a living", you're a human and inherently valueable. A solarpunk world will have better video games because they'd be made for the love of the game, not for profit motive.
If there is something one wants that necessitates harming others to produce or acquire and they view themselves as entitled to it at the expense of others then that is not an innocent person falling through the cracks.
No one is talking about you, mass media and consumerism has nothing to do with anything you described. Video games as a whole does not equal consumerism or mass media. Micro transactions and other terrible patterns do.
I didn’t even think there were serious solar punk stories, and even if so, aren’t all of them like technological utopias? Why would entertainment ie video games be gone from them? Even if they aren’t the focus (which makes sense) what reason would a solar punk society have to do away with video games?
Um, but the majority of video games are not made by big tech? What is your point? Indie games are usually just better overall anyway. I’m really failing to see why any solarpunk society would stop people from making video games
Because solarpunk writers are rarely, if ever, gamers. Gamers are a niche subculture in the solarpunk works I've seen and as you're seeing, people in the solarpunk community seem to like it that way.
My confusion continues to compound. Many of the people in this thread have zero issue with video games or actually play them. I really gotta see a source for
Explain why then, despite someone important mentioning video games occurs in the Necroverse (Transhumanist Cyberjock/Solarpunk story by "RichM90071"), no games being played are EVER shown.
I think that’s just cause video games are not great entertainment for grander story beats. They’re kinda like knitting or watching tv, something you do in your off time to relax or get away but not really flashy enough like gambling or an opera house to be featured.
Asshole, I never said that. I'm well aware TTD was originally a commercial product, that's my entire point. You can't make games for free, and yes, I value video games more than continued lifespan because art allows me to ignore a reality I despise for being defined by everyone else.
You don't have the right to fucking judge me for the tiny little quirk of liking a game, I only mentioned it because it was mildly relevant.
Actually, I believe you can make games for free to consumers, and I believe systems inspired by solarpunk would, if anything, do a better job of encouraging this over our current political system. Art, including video games, doesn't just disappear in solarpunk societies.
I'm not judging you for liking a game, I never said anything of the sort, lol. Although I find it hard not to judge you if you just bark insults.
Read "Project Hieroglyph" and the way one of its "optimistic" stories ("Girl in Wave: Wave in Girl") shows a multiplayer superhero game and the main character hates it. That's not how mental illness works, computers used to be GOOD for providing social contact. That's not education, that's "fix yourself".
I am not broken. I am unhappy because I don't want to live in a world where I face reality, whether that's "IRL" or "social media". You know why I like the 4th Matrix movie? It reminds us that this image isn't what the world provides, it's what the Matrix - real life - forces us to work towards. The Matrix isn't just the fake world, it's the fake world on top of a real one and the real escape is to change, not break, the system that binds us because there is nothing in the real but vast lifeless desert. Mars, the Moon... Dead rocks. There is no evidence of an afterlife nor any point to "accepting" a secular life you hate because you will still hate it and "scientific evidence only" doesn't fix anything or change who you are.
I’ll definitely have to give that a read, though some quick reading of opinions about that work are fairly mixed.
Also no one has said you’re broken or that you need to face reality. The whole point of solarpunk is that will be no world to face unless we take action. And none of that has anything to do with video games or anything you have described.
To be fair, I'm aware you're correct, it's a shitty book with very little actual optimism. It's not alone though, aside from the Necroverse I also have issue with the general attitude of solarpunk because it proposes that humans can't have a genuine affinity for a digital existence.
"You don't have to upload if you don't want to, and I will march with you against the singularity to defend that. March against me, though, and I will not be subject to your worldview willingly." I don't actually believe the singularity is likely, technology doesn't work that way, but that point still stands. Solarpunk demands you sacrifice what you have for "the greater good" even if you have very little to begin with.
Imagine if the evil cyberpunk megacorp, or the steampunk empress, or the dieselpunk dictatorship, or the biopunk megacorp, told you up-front what the costs really are. Nobody would buy into their machinations. Solarpunk tells you "You want satisfaction? Run away to the middle of nowhere and pretend electronics can be made at 1nm scale without semiconductor factories and neve
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To be fair, I'm aware you're correct, it's a shitty book with very little actual optimism. It's not alone though, aside from the Necroverse I also have issue with the general attitude of solarpunk because it proposes that humans can't have a genuine affinity for a digital existence.
"You don't have to upload if you don't want to, and I will march with you against the singularity to defend that. March against me, though, and I will not be subject to your worldview willingly." I don't actually believe the singularity is likely, technology doesn't work that way, but that point still stands. Solarpunk demands you sacrifice what you have for "the greater good" even if you have very little to begin with.
Imagine if the evil cyberpunk megacorp, or the steampunk empress, or the dieselpunk dictatorship, or the biopunk megacorp, told you up-front what the costs really are. Nobody would buy into their machinations. Solarpunk tells you "You want satisfaction? Run away to the middle of nowhere and pretend electronics can be made at 1nm scale without semiconductor factories and never play with your tech toys ever again." and doesn't seem to care that outliers like me will say "Actually, I am satisfied. I'm angry because you want to take that away."
Scratch that. It doesn't have to care. "If everyone but the corner cases wants it, we can FORCE it to happen. Just like the conservatives did with cyberpunk." It learned, so to speak, what the Social Media Dystopia did to win. It bought an election of an ideology, because without the popular upvote a corporation can't become powerful in a world with online criticism. I'm trying to kill an idea before that idea truly becomes an issue, by pointing out that solarpunk is still dystopian.
Also are you ok? I find it rather odd to be this intensely invested about what is generally a fairly niche community in solarpunk. Not that the mission and ideology aren’t worth being passionate about, but I mean we are talking about video games and green societies nothing crazy.
Mainly I'm a sci-fi author who hates the genre because almost everyone else wants it to be true and I'm the only one saying "it would literally be like the world is a prison to me" only to get the response "you're the only one not allowed to be happy, suffer so normal people are all equal".
Again I’m really not sure where this is coming from since the majority of solarpunk people I’ve talked to do not espouse the view you are describing. But in the interest of fairness; why would solarpunk which only aims to create a fair, renewable energy based, democratic post scarcity society focused on human happiness be a prison to you?
Mainly because, at least as far as I've seen, solarpunk societies requires "taking responsibility for your survival into your own hands" which I am mentally incapable of doing, and not from lazyness or lack of effort. Trust me, if I could hold a job I wouldn't be able to afford to not be working right now. I might have a mild form of oppositional defiant disorder or a bad case of PTSD, but when someone is a jerk to me I take it personally and hold grudges, making working with people who give me orders or take orders from me essentially like ordering a cat to herd sheep.
I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree, I think solarpunk societies are focused on community and not on "taking responsibility for your survival into your own hands". That view is for people trying to run away from others. Generally solarpunk is just for people who want to build a more environmentally conscious society, not one that abandons people. In your case specifically, I think a solarpunk society would actually benefit you greatly.
Mainly my issue is that I am simply not interested in nature and solarpunk works I've personally viewed have - at least by chance - been extremely anti-urbanist and anti-disability the first three times.
I have no issue with the environment being protected, only with valuing it at the expense of someone whose only place to be themselves used to be online. That isn't even a "me" thing, it's a "this work doesn't necessarily need a token disabled person, but you should design it so that disabled people will still be just as if not more able to function without being forced to make social connections IRL or on centralized social media or even (for now) federated social media" thing. The reason disabled people fantasize about VR worlds with superpowers is because if we had that power but were still ourselves, we'd feel like equals rather than "superior" because we'd have something people value us for.
I think the fediverse is a mistake. I shouldn't be here. You might think that just because I prefer FOSS that I would promote it, but it's been almost a year and Lemmy/etc. ar
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Mainly my issue is that I am simply not interested in nature and solarpunk works I've personally viewed have - at least by chance - been extremely anti-urbanist and anti-disability the first three times.
I have no issue with the environment being protected, only with valuing it at the expense of someone whose only place to be themselves used to be online. That isn't even a "me" thing, it's a "this work doesn't necessarily need a token disabled person, but you should design it so that disabled people will still be just as if not more able to function without being forced to make social connections IRL or on centralized social media or even (for now) federated social media" thing. The reason disabled people fantasize about VR worlds with superpowers is because if we had that power but were still ourselves, we'd feel like equals rather than "superior" because we'd have something people value us for.
I think the fediverse is a mistake. I shouldn't be here. You might think that just because I prefer FOSS that I would promote it, but it's been almost a year and Lemmy/etc. are a bigger cesspool than reddit. Maybe Web³ is right, as far as VR is concerned. People who do hate reality are on whatever fledgeling metaverse platform they're on because the fediverse will never be like golden age reddit. We finished the Web in 2D and it's a corporate shithole. Time to move to a greener pasture...
Reading this, I think most of the disparity in our views comes from where our view of solarpunk comes from as well as opinion toward nature. I have never engaged with any solarpunk works simply cause I never thought of them as relevant to the overall concept, I’ve only ever engaged with people.
And people as far as I am aware are in a sense anti-urbanist but not anti-cities, mostly just car infrastructure and other urban-specific environmentally hostile additions. In particular many of these individuals actually care a great deal about accessibility and are with greater frequency than other groups I’ve seen disabled themselves. I usually prefer to actually talk to people rather than refer to works unless those individuals specifically refer me to those works as representative. Otherwise you’re being unfair.
Also could you give examples of those works being anti-accessibility? It may be worth bringing up accessibility in this lemmy community in a separate post. Also can’t say I agree with the fediverse take, this place has been nothing but nice t
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Reading this, I think most of the disparity in our views comes from where our view of solarpunk comes from as well as opinion toward nature. I have never engaged with any solarpunk works simply cause I never thought of them as relevant to the overall concept, I’ve only ever engaged with people.
And people as far as I am aware are in a sense anti-urbanist but not anti-cities, mostly just car infrastructure and other urban-specific environmentally hostile additions. In particular many of these individuals actually care a great deal about accessibility and are with greater frequency than other groups I’ve seen disabled themselves. I usually prefer to actually talk to people rather than refer to works unless those individuals specifically refer me to those works as representative. Otherwise you’re being unfair.
Also could you give examples of those works being anti-accessibility? It may be worth bringing up accessibility in this lemmy community in a separate post. Also can’t say I agree with the fediverse take, this place has been nothing but nice to me.
The issue is mostly the type of disability. You have to realize mental disability is not visible unless you know what to look for and even then you're dealing with some strange and often self-hated traits. So while physical disability is accounted for, mental illness and especially mental trauma (abandonment issues, PTSD in my case) are simply not even recognized as existing.
In most solarpunk I've seen, the issue of permanent differences in how a person functions is simply never addressed, and it feels like a gentrification of the problem. "Maybe we should push the mentally-handicapped somewhere else!"
It hurts even more when you get the handicap after you're born. Most mental issues are genetic and so they have no reference point. I didn't ask to be fucking beaten by a foster father who smoked in the house and refused to be questioned. I didn't ask or deserve to be stolen from my family by corrupt government officials. I didn't ask to be beaten by a bully so hard that he went to juvie for it and I was bedridden for a month. If you want to improve life,
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The issue is mostly the type of disability. You have to realize mental disability is not visible unless you know what to look for and even then you're dealing with some strange and often self-hated traits. So while physical disability is accounted for, mental illness and especially mental trauma (abandonment issues, PTSD in my case) are simply not even recognized as existing.
In most solarpunk I've seen, the issue of permanent differences in how a person functions is simply never addressed, and it feels like a gentrification of the problem. "Maybe we should push the mentally-handicapped somewhere else!"
It hurts even more when you get the handicap after you're born. Most mental issues are genetic and so they have no reference point. I didn't ask to be fucking beaten by a foster father who smoked in the house and refused to be questioned. I didn't ask or deserve to be stolen from my family by corrupt government officials. I didn't ask to be beaten by a bully so hard that he went to juvie for it and I was bedridden for a month. If you want to improve life, do it for people who have less than you without lowering anyone's standard of living. Otherwise you're asking for a world I cannot live in because I am a permanently-scarred psyche and I cannot support myself nor function in a community.
Don't get me wrong, inclusivity is bullshit. I only ask for a future I can rely on machines in, not one in which I would be doomed to die. I can see how being exposed to solarpunk via people first might make that something you didn't expect at least.
Damn, I’m sorry all that happened to you, I wish you the best in your life going forward. And I do have to say I don’t think anyone who is into solarpunk thinks those with mental disability should just be pushed aside and discarded. That would be almost antithetical to a concept so focused on improving the human condition.
That said, I could see where an emphasis on nature more in the goals could lead to people suggesting they want to take away the things you hold dear. However, I don’t think that’s the majority opinion of people into solarpunk nor do I believe you would be unable rely on machines in a solarpunk society. The whole goal of solarpunk is environmentally conscious technology not no technology. In fact I think most solarpunks would love a future that has the technology you would want. In other words I think your goals are in alignment if not complete agreement.
Edit: actually they feature even more prominently in the sequel #Missing Mermaid, where the investigators interview a full time gamer and possible witness who was streaming some kind of dark souls sequel near the dissapearance/possible kidnapping.
Also the rulebook for the TTRPG Fully Automated specific mentions that playing videogames full time is an accepted lifestyle in their post-scarcity society, and the contacts character stat tracks online contacts independently from offline, so you can make a character who has no Internet presence, or who lives entirely in games and basically only makes friends through videogames, or anywhere in between.
I'm a shut-in, with untreated health issues, someone who partakes in escapism, and even someone who likes the idea of programming but can't really do much (I tinkered on rendering polygons from text input last September and didn't even finish it enough to be usable for me).
I haven't seen much solarpunk but I've never thought to myself that it'd be worse for me. If I existed in an environment like that (particularly from birth or at least for a long time) I don't think I'd be the same escapist shut-in. I could see open-source games still existing, and maybe programming being better even if people are less likely to have videogames as their most common activity. I've taken care of already-growing plants before, but it seems to me like a lax solarpun
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I'm a shut-in, with untreated health issues, someone who partakes in escapism, and even someone who likes the idea of programming but can't really do much (I tinkered on rendering polygons from text input last September and didn't even finish it enough to be usable for me).
I haven't seen much solarpunk but I've never thought to myself that it'd be worse for me. If I existed in an environment like that (particularly from birth or at least for a long time) I don't think I'd be the same escapist shut-in. I could see open-source games still existing, and maybe programming being better even if people are less likely to have videogames as their most common activity. I've taken care of already-growing plants before, but it seems to me like a lax solarpunk environment would offer more options/opportunity than employment currently offers. Probably actual opportunity to travel, too.
Even carrying over my current mindset and (lack of) capability, I can't see a solarpunk environment being even half as restricted as my experience now. I mean the whole idea is better community and technology used to help people (not strictly for money) so it seems to me you wouldn't be required to garden.
To be fair, it seems like I may have had bad luck in the first three solarpunk works I ever experienced. My issue against the whole idea is "this is a society that can no longer afford to value non-practical pursuits, it is the future we are headed towards, therefore our present society can no longer afford to value non-practical pursuits" that was somehow in all three solarpunk works I encountered.
The three in question were Girl in Wave: Wave in Girl, the Necroverse by "RichM", and a story that a fair-weather friend wrote that I no longer have a copy of that showed a dystopian cybersolarpunk hybrid where "Covid-19 has ended the modern age and now everything is powered by wind turbines because most of us are dead".
As a result of such bad luck, I may have overestimated how central that theme of "self-sufficiency or die" is to the genre.
Yeah I think it's been found that there is a sweet spot for income and happiness. Having billions of dollars won't make you any happier, but I think it's something around $120K per year that provides everything needed to have a happy life without having to stress much about paying the bills.
Unfortunately the vast majority of people fall way below the level of income needed that's necessary to be able to have a stress free long walk and a good conversation that's not about how to make ends meet, etc.
Hard to have a slow morning and day naps when you're rushing between two jobs because you don't have money.
If you had money, you could be more selective in finding work that provided the balance and flexibility needed to appreciate the things in life that are free.
But all of these things are too expensive when you're time-poor, and most people are time poor because they're desperately trying to avoid being financially poor.
I think you're underestimating how much labour the global poor perform in a 24 hour period, 7 days a week.
But yes, many of these things can be possible if you prioritise them for your mental health, my point is just that it's not always easy to prioritise mental health when you're focused on physical survival.
But obviously, if you can include these things in your routine, you absolutely should, there are virtually no downsides.
I think it's almost impossible to miss every single one of these all the time. I have worked with the extremely poor, and watched documentaries of people in third world countries regularly. Most people even those who are literal third world slaves (indebted for life) can still regularly enjoy at least 2 of these things regularly.
I'm not saying it's not shit and that ideally everyone should experience all of them, but it's unrealistically cynical and nihilistic to think everyone poor is just miserable and doesn't enjoy anything.
My god you are clueless. Have you moved out of your parent's home yet? I'm just curious where you are in your life? If you moved, were you given a stable and well funded childhood? I'm just trying to understand the disconnect.
Yeah I've lived out of home for close to 2 decades.
I think people here are being extremely dramatic if they say they never are able to sleep in or never have a chance to hear birds singing though, or to watch a sunset. That is absolute hyperbolic bullshit.
Unless this post is about doing it every day (which it isn't), then everyone gets to enjoy these luxuries at least semi-regularly.
$29.99? Must've been a formatting issue because there should be some more numbers out front or at least tell me we've got a premium solution with a 60% guarantee
We have made it so that having the freedom to choose, a most basic human need, feels like doing incorrect stuff.
Like, just choosing to leave a relationship subjects you to so much pain and hate that you'd rather not do it.
It sucks, but sadly a lot of these things are luxuries. Some are getting better but others worse (for example, there are less birds now than in the past, or at least it seems that way).
It’s been centuries since the robots of Panga gained self-awareness and laid down their tools; centuries since they wandered, en masse, into the wilderness, never to be seen again; centuries since they faded into myth and urban legend.
A friend literally just gifted me a copy of this because I've been feeling so burnt out by capitalism, and let me tell you, I devoured that book. It spoke to my weary soul. And made me want to quit my job (I already was wanting to quit my job)
Read the Vorkosigan Saga. Lois McMaster Bujold. The audiobooks are also outstanding. Long series with fantastic characters, each one distinct. It's a big space opera. Totally worth it.
If you're into fantasy, look into The Wheel of Time series. It's dense, absolutely packed with characters, and the world has a ton of detail. It's also 14 (rather large) books long, 15 if you count the prequel, so if you like it it'll keep you busy for a good long while.
If you've seen the Amazon series based on the books and were turned off by it, maybe give the books a try instead. The Amazon series doesn't do it justice, in my opinion.
If you like sci-fi, I recommend The Expanse books and novellas.
The audiobooks narrated by Jefferson Mays are also good, as is the TV series, though they tried to cram too much into the last season, IMO, without actually finishing the story. The ending in the books is tons better.
If you like sci-fi, I recommend Project Hail Mary. It was written by the author of the book that became the movie “The Martian” (also supposedly a real great book, and on my list). Same guy wrote the short story “The Egg” that’s a pretty good and quick philo-fi.
I read Moby Dick once and it was not enjoyable in the least. It is boring as fuck. Maybe it's imitating through prose the long monotonous stretches between whale sightings, but that's not an engaging read.
The other morning my dogs woke me up way too damn early, but it meant I got to watch a very fat pigeon on the power line behind my house, and I got to see the finch population rapidly increase around it. (I swear I saw one little bird and by the time I got out of bed there were 5 jetting around. Pigeon did not move.)
I agree that these are luxuries for a lot of people. Some of them can be found with mindset shifts (from "fuck you dogs" to "oh look, pretty birds" for example) but it's also hard to shift your mindset to positivity when our society tries its damnedest to beat happiness out of you.
demesisx
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •keyez
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Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •DarkGamer
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •some_guy
Als Antwort auf DarkGamer • • •queermunist she/her
Als Antwort auf some_guy • • •lugal
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Vent
Als Antwort auf lugal • • •lugal
Als Antwort auf Vent • • •brbposting
Als Antwort auf lugal • • •LibertyLizard
Als Antwort auf Vent • • •In capitalism, one must first pay for basic necessities like food and shelter before anything else. For some people who make low wages this requires an amount of time and effort that interferes with their leisure time.
That said, there are also some people who think they are in this category when in reality their stress is due to self-imposed standards of living that are higher than necessary. Or anxiety and other psychological problems that could be addressed through non-material strategies.
I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Als Antwort auf LibertyLizard • • •also encouraged and exacerbated by capitalism (the former - to create the illusion of a "middle class" for people to aspire to and vote against their own actual material conditions, the latter - by commodifying health care and pathologizing anything that harms "productivity")
humorlessrepost
Als Antwort auf Vent • • •David_Eight
Als Antwort auf humorlessrepost • • •lugal
Als Antwort auf David_Eight • • •David_Eight
Als Antwort auf lugal • • •lugal
Als Antwort auf David_Eight • • •queermunist she/her
Als Antwort auf lugal • • •BastingChemina
Als Antwort auf queermunist she/her • • •How do we call something that the majority of people can't afford ?
A luxury
queermunist she/her
Als Antwort auf BastingChemina • • •We call it expensive, which is a subtlety that the title of this meme poopooing on "consumerism" is missing out on.
Hence, a boogie meme. Those of us down here in the dirt don't have time for these luxuries; we consume imitations.
grrgyle
Als Antwort auf lugal • • •Maybe I'm misunderstanding the picture, but I thought that's why they were called luxuries - because not everyone gets to have them. Though they aren't what we usually associate with a luxurious lifestyle.
E: just to be clear, everyone should have them, but many are too occupied with the daily battle for survival.
lugal
Als Antwort auf grrgyle • • •grrgyle
Als Antwort auf lugal • • •CbtB
Als Antwort auf lugal • • •rid us of money entirely. Sounds pretty nice but requires huge cultural and lifestyle changes.
trainline
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏
Als Antwort auf trainline • • •Jeredin
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •big_slap
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •1stTime4MeInMCU
Als Antwort auf big_slap • • •big_slap
Als Antwort auf 1stTime4MeInMCU • • •tygerprints
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •LibertyLizard
Als Antwort auf tygerprints • • •Splatterphace
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •JackGreenEarth
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •kassuro
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Don't know the last time when I slept alone in my bed or had a slow morning.
But well, you get other things in return, like the pure love of you children so it's fine haha.
queermunist she/her
Als Antwort auf kassuro • • •That's because we destroyed the primitive communal family to create the nuclear family. Humans throughout most of history would raise their children collectively, rather than all the responsibility just being dumped directly onto the parents.
And they wonder why we don't have kids lol
kassuro
Als Antwort auf queermunist she/her • • •That's true, we also have the unfortunate situation that we don't have any relatives that could support us. All grand parents live at least ~5 hours away. Moving isn't really an option for my wife because of her work currently.
Really sucks...
Swedneck
Als Antwort auf kassuro • • •MB420GFY
Als Antwort auf kassuro • • •Pretzilla
Als Antwort auf kassuro • • •Congratulations, they are GenLast.
(The planet is dying from an overpopulation hug of death for those that didn't figure that out yet.)
Confused_Emus
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍
Als Antwort auf Confused_Emus • • •CubitOom
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •AgentGrimstone
Als Antwort auf CubitOom • • •some_guy
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •BastingChemina
Als Antwort auf some_guy • • •Something about naps I discovered I that there is two kind of naps
* short naps around 20-30min where you don't get any deep sleep
* long naps around 1 or 2 full sleep cycles, so for most peoples 1.5 or 3 hours nap.
Waking up from a short nap should be easy and you should feel energized almost immediately, if its not the case it probably means that your body started a full sleep cycle.
So to be able to nap during the day we need to find a way to tell or body that this is just a short break and we are not going for a full sleep, usually sleeping somewhere different like the couch or in a different position in the bed
Nouveau_Burnswick
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Swedneck
Als Antwort auf Nouveau_Burnswick • • •Nouveau_Burnswick
Als Antwort auf Swedneck • • •I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Als Antwort auf Nouveau_Burnswick • • •So, you live on a desert island? because if you don't, and you don't, there is plenty you can do about it... I guarantee that wherever you are, there is a supportive community to be a part of.
Nouveau_Burnswick
Als Antwort auf I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com • • •MB420GFY
Als Antwort auf Nouveau_Burnswick • • •Nouveau_Burnswick
Als Antwort auf MB420GFY • • •oldfart
Als Antwort auf Nouveau_Burnswick • • •irmoz
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •BobbyNevada
Als Antwort auf irmoz • • •RageAgainstTheRich
Als Antwort auf irmoz • • •laverabe
Als Antwort auf irmoz • • •Why add a symbol that is almost solely used by totalitarian governments?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_a…
Are there any countries that use the symbol that are actually nice places to live with good governments?
symbol of communism
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Humana
Als Antwort auf laverabe • • •laverabe
Als Antwort auf Humana • • •en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola#A…
country on the west coast of Southern Africa
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Humana
Als Antwort auf laverabe • • •Yes I'm aware of the history of Angola.
You asked
Angola has made a conscious decision to stick to this symbol as if transitions to a liberal democracy and stable economy. There were some efforts to change the flag recently because as you said it's often associated with totalitarian regimes. But those efforts failed because to Angolans it symbolizes the Angolan triumph over the colonial oppression of Portugal and resistance to apartheid South African invasion.
It could change in the future, Angola is still moving towards "good government" and "nice place to live" as you said. But for now it remains their national flag.
laverabe
Als Antwort auf Humana • • •Humana
Als Antwort auf laverabe • • •Justinas Dūdėnas
Als Antwort auf laverabe • • •Meaning is also contextual - different cultures put different meaning in symbols. To represent global ideas we need some consensus.
Baltic neo-pagans were rigtfully culturally suppressed from using swastika as "symbol of Sun". Hammer and sickle also signifies millions of deaths and decades of repressioms. It is even forbidden in some post soviet countries along with swastika. Lets find something less damaging to represent marxist ideas.
@Humana
Humana
Als Antwort auf Justinas Dūdėnas • • •Justinas Dūdėnas
Als Antwort auf Humana • • •And wouldn't you be against public display of swastikas if they are displayed by "neopagans" and supposedly symbolize Sun?
Humana
Als Antwort auf Justinas Dūdėnas • • •irmoz
Als Antwort auf laverabe • • •I can't tell if you're being ignorant or disingenuous. The Ⓐ should be a clue as to my opinion on government in general, no? As for ☭ - check the first sentence of the article you linked. Or the description written under it, for what I meant to invoke.
I am no USSR apologist. I just consider that symbol useful as a marker for worker solidarity.
laverabe
Als Antwort auf irmoz • • •I understand what it means, and I support what it is trying to do in theory. The problem is there has never been a government, to my knowledge, that has embraced the ideology that has not turned to corruption/totalitarianism. In these countries, the proletariat are deprived of their rights and fare far worse. That is what the hammer and sickle represents.
I'm happy to change my mind if an example can prove otherwise, but to my knowledge the most effective form of government is that of a social democracy, which is represented by a red rose.
Measure of the state of democracy by The Economist
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)irmoz
Als Antwort auf laverabe • • •I'm not talking about any governments.
Like I already told you:
This sentence is the entire and only reason I used that symbol. You have zero reason to continue to ask me for "good governments using this symbol". It is not a symbol of government. Communism is stateless, ergo no government. Just like anarchism.
You're trolling. Fuck off.
laverabe
Als Antwort auf irmoz • • •Nice civility
Symbols can have meanings that are different than what they turn into. Hammer and sickle is almost unanimously considered to be a symbol of Stalin USSR totalitarian communism where millions perished.
irmoz
Als Antwort auf laverabe • • •The Hindu one is, yes.
Not denying that.
Only to people ignorant of what communism actually means.
El_guapazo
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Otherwise you'll be working for the basics
qaz
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Are other people just ignoring this or am I the only person who is distracted by this?
grrgyle
Als Antwort auf qaz • • •Pretzilla
Als Antwort auf qaz • • •brbposting
Als Antwort auf qaz • • •It was on the news this mroing
a mother in ar who had kill her three kids, they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest. my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots
HotsauceHurricane
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •“The ability to freely express yourself”
—with fire.
tygerprints
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Als Antwort auf tygerprints • • •Mac
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Zacryon
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Als Antwort auf Zacryon • • •poVoq
Als Antwort auf thegiddystitcher • • •Boomer Humor Doomergod
Als Antwort auf Zacryon • • •There's this big male cardinal who lives in my rhododendron. He's not the problem. The problem are the loud, brash younglings who show up and try to muscle in on his territory. They start before dawn, screaming at the top of a tree, making up for their lack of style with sheer volume.
Plus they sound like fucking car alarms. The Big Boy has a gorgeous call, and perches on the fence between the houses to take advantage of the acoustics, and starts at least an hour after dawn because no lady wants to be woken up early by a fuckboy.
He must be back early this year because there's only been one asshole bird who woke me up.
QuandaleDingle
Als Antwort auf Boomer Humor Doomergod • • •Boomer Humor Doomergod
Als Antwort auf QuandaleDingle • • •DumbAceDragon
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Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •MrBusiness
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Fuck solarpunk. I buy carefully, not mindlessly, based on what I'm getting and for how long, with the intent of not having to replace what I buy. So let's get that out of the way, this isn't about the merits of environmental preservation or efficient use of our resources.
I need mass media because I ENJOY PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. I don't want to live in the fucking "gay space commune", I want to live in a world that feels good to me, and you solarpunk assholes seem to say people like me who escape from reality because they've NEVER been capable of supporting themselves should start a fucking garden?!
Newsflash. I. Don't. Like. Your. "Utopia". I never will. If you ever succeed in making your idea of a future a reality, I'll burn it to the fucking ground as my revenge on you bastards. I hate your idea because all it does is change how I am oppressed as a disabled adult to how I was oppressed as a special needs child illegally taken from my parents by a corrupt mental health system.
You want to see a real utopia? A place where everyone is happy in the world they live in
... mehr anzeigenFuck solarpunk. I buy carefully, not mindlessly, based on what I'm getting and for how long, with the intent of not having to replace what I buy. So let's get that out of the way, this isn't about the merits of environmental preservation or efficient use of our resources.
I need mass media because I ENJOY PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. I don't want to live in the fucking "gay space commune", I want to live in a world that feels good to me, and you solarpunk assholes seem to say people like me who escape from reality because they've NEVER been capable of supporting themselves should start a fucking garden?!
Newsflash. I. Don't. Like. Your. "Utopia". I never will. If you ever succeed in making your idea of a future a reality, I'll burn it to the fucking ground as my revenge on you bastards. I hate your idea because all it does is change how I am oppressed as a disabled adult to how I was oppressed as a special needs child illegally taken from my parents by a corrupt mental health system.
You want to see a real utopia? A place where everyone is happy in the world they live in? Fucking find an oneirogenic drug that induces lucid dreams or create a VR metaverse.
Who I am in reality does not matter. Who I am in my mind can't be expressed in a solarpunk world, only online. At least that's how it used to be.
Why am I named the same as an Open Source Game? Cyperprep doesn't have to mean "the future megacorps are not so bad!" but rather "megacorps control this dystopian future but they can't always stop the signal and that means Open Source Software is the way to fight back".
The difference between FOSS for smart devices and social networks and FOSS for games is that games are art and that means paid food production will take precedence over volunteer video games.
And no, you don't get to say "get another hobby". I know myself. I like technology. I don't like preachy people. I stopped buying Apple when I stopped seeing unique-looking devices. I am a gamer. Most importantly, I am a sci-fi writer who wants optimistic stories that don't assume the reader is a fully-capable person.
I am not demanding you write what I want to see. Only that you not try to turn reality into it. If you see this, once again, fuck solarpunk.
jose1324
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •mojo_raisin
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf mojo_raisin • • •mojo_raisin
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf mojo_raisin • • •Confirmation indeed. It's really too much to fucking ask that you NOT build another fucking prison? You, not me, are the sociopath. At least I reserve my angry rampage for if you succeed.
You judge me for liking what I like? You are literally trying to control my life by redefining society, and no, I'm not some rich skullfucker nor do I think people aren't entitled to the same basic level of comfort I enjoy regardless of race, gender, eromantic orientation or anything else; they may not have it, but if you wanted real equality then you NEED to uplift people's minimum living standard.
Apparently you care more about organic produce and trees than children or the homeless.
mojo_raisin
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •Who's talking about building a prison? You've imagined an enemy in solarpunk that has nothing to do with solarpunk and are getting upset at an internet stranger that has made no claims about wanting to stop you from playing video games.
You'll understand when your 13.
OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf mojo_raisin • • •mojo_raisin
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf mojo_raisin • • •How do I live the life I want to live in a setting that tells me I "don't really enjoy this, you're just brainwashed by capitalism" over and over? By fighting back.
You and the aesthetic (idea) you follow are not powerless and you desire a world I am excluded from, purely because the part of my life I enjoy most (the fulfilment of escapism) doesn't fit into that worldview. I am probably not going to change anything, but so be it I wanted my position to be clear. You propose taking away a life(style) that I enjoy, and I want to point out that is what you're proposing. I cannot hold a job, I have issues which are permanent and pervasive that exclude any existence in a community-focused world and if solarpunk will not accommodate that then I will not accommodate it. I can't kill an idea, nobody can, but maybe I can get people to realise that solarpunk is not about only good improvements, it has a dark side and that dark side is that there are innocent people who fall through the cracks when only "the greater good" is considered.
mojo_raisin
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •First I'll say I can't speak for others claiming to be "solarpunk", nobody owns this word. The following are my opinions of solarpunk.
Solarpunk isn't about forcing everyone to live within the aesthetic. Because solarpunk is an aesthetic it manifests mostly in art, but just because an element is not common in solarpunk art doesn't mean it's not welcome in what one might call a "solarpunk world".
You don't see goths wearing all black in solarpunk art either, that doesn't mean solarpunks want to ban goths. You are into escapism, that doesn't really lend itself to depictions of solarpunk art. Solarpunk art is about promoting some ideals, escapism (while not excluded) isn't one of those so why would it be included in the art?
If there is such a thing as a solarpunk ideology, it would be akin to anarcho-communism. Solarpunk/Anarcho-communism is not about exclusion. It's not about forcing everyone to sing kum ba ya or GTFO. A community based world isn't about forcing social interaction, it's about society being driven by the needs of the community rather than the ne
... mehr anzeigenFirst I'll say I can't speak for others claiming to be "solarpunk", nobody owns this word. The following are my opinions of solarpunk.
Solarpunk isn't about forcing everyone to live within the aesthetic. Because solarpunk is an aesthetic it manifests mostly in art, but just because an element is not common in solarpunk art doesn't mean it's not welcome in what one might call a "solarpunk world".
You don't see goths wearing all black in solarpunk art either, that doesn't mean solarpunks want to ban goths. You are into escapism, that doesn't really lend itself to depictions of solarpunk art. Solarpunk art is about promoting some ideals, escapism (while not excluded) isn't one of those so why would it be included in the art?
If there is such a thing as a solarpunk ideology, it would be akin to anarcho-communism. Solarpunk/Anarcho-communism is not about exclusion. It's not about forcing everyone to sing kum ba ya or GTFO. A community based world isn't about forcing social interaction, it's about society being driven by the needs of the community rather than the needs of a wealthy owner class, AND YOU ARE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY JUST AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE.
In the solarpunk world I want, you don't have to "earn a living", you're a human and inherently valueable. A solarpunk world will have better video games because they'd be made for the love of the game, not for profit motive.
If there is something one wants that necessitates harming others to produce or acquire and they view themselves as entitled to it at the expense of others then that is not an innocent person falling through the cracks.
Churbleyimyam
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •Bro, what does any of this have to do with solarpunk?
Just normal stuff...
CharlieActual
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •Simple. Because most solarpunk is written by people who hate technology corporations.
To be fair, big tech is evil. Doesn't change my point.
TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •My confusion continues to compound. Many of the people in this thread have zero issue with video games or actually play them. I really gotta see a source for
OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •catnash [she/her, ae/aer]
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •Except for Open TTD of course.
OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf catnash [she/her, ae/aer] • • •Asshole, I never said that. I'm well aware TTD was originally a commercial product, that's my entire point. You can't make games for free, and yes, I value video games more than continued lifespan because art allows me to ignore a reality I despise for being defined by everyone else.
You don't have the right to fucking judge me for the tiny little quirk of liking a game, I only mentioned it because it was mildly relevant.
catnash [she/her, ae/aer]
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •Actually, I believe you can make games for free to consumers, and I believe systems inspired by solarpunk would, if anything, do a better job of encouraging this over our current political system. Art, including video games, doesn't just disappear in solarpunk societies.
I'm not judging you for liking a game, I never said anything of the sort, lol. Although I find it hard not to judge you if you just bark insults.
ғᴇʟɪx
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf ғᴇʟɪx • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •Read "Project Hieroglyph" and the way one of its "optimistic" stories ("Girl in Wave: Wave in Girl") shows a multiplayer superhero game and the main character hates it. That's not how mental illness works, computers used to be GOOD for providing social contact. That's not education, that's "fix yourself".
I am not broken. I am unhappy because I don't want to live in a world where I face reality, whether that's "IRL" or "social media". You know why I like the 4th Matrix movie? It reminds us that this image isn't what the world provides, it's what the Matrix - real life - forces us to work towards. The Matrix isn't just the fake world, it's the fake world on top of a real one and the real escape is to change, not break, the system that binds us because there is nothing in the real but vast lifeless desert. Mars, the Moon... Dead rocks. There is no evidence of an afterlife nor any point to "accepting" a secular life you hate because you will still hate it and "scientific evidence only" doesn't fix anything or change who you are.
TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •I’ll definitely have to give that a read, though some quick reading of opinions about that work are fairly mixed.
Also no one has said you’re broken or that you need to face reality. The whole point of solarpunk is that will be no world to face unless we take action. And none of that has anything to do with video games or anything you have described.
OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •To be fair, I'm aware you're correct, it's a shitty book with very little actual optimism. It's not alone though, aside from the Necroverse I also have issue with the general attitude of solarpunk because it proposes that humans can't have a genuine affinity for a digital existence.
"You don't have to upload if you don't want to, and I will march with you against the singularity to defend that. March against me, though, and I will not be subject to your worldview willingly." I don't actually believe the singularity is likely, technology doesn't work that way, but that point still stands. Solarpunk demands you sacrifice what you have for "the greater good" even if you have very little to begin with.
Imagine if the evil cyberpunk megacorp, or the steampunk empress, or the dieselpunk dictatorship, or the biopunk megacorp, told you up-front what the costs really are. Nobody would buy into their machinations. Solarpunk tells you "You want satisfaction? Run away to the middle of nowhere and pretend electronics can be made at 1nm scale without semiconductor factories and neve
... mehr anzeigenTo be fair, I'm aware you're correct, it's a shitty book with very little actual optimism. It's not alone though, aside from the Necroverse I also have issue with the general attitude of solarpunk because it proposes that humans can't have a genuine affinity for a digital existence.
"You don't have to upload if you don't want to, and I will march with you against the singularity to defend that. March against me, though, and I will not be subject to your worldview willingly." I don't actually believe the singularity is likely, technology doesn't work that way, but that point still stands. Solarpunk demands you sacrifice what you have for "the greater good" even if you have very little to begin with.
Imagine if the evil cyberpunk megacorp, or the steampunk empress, or the dieselpunk dictatorship, or the biopunk megacorp, told you up-front what the costs really are. Nobody would buy into their machinations. Solarpunk tells you "You want satisfaction? Run away to the middle of nowhere and pretend electronics can be made at 1nm scale without semiconductor factories and never play with your tech toys ever again." and doesn't seem to care that outliers like me will say "Actually, I am satisfied. I'm angry because you want to take that away."
Scratch that. It doesn't have to care. "If everyone but the corner cases wants it, we can FORCE it to happen. Just like the conservatives did with cyberpunk." It learned, so to speak, what the Social Media Dystopia did to win. It bought an election of an ideology, because without the popular upvote a corporation can't become powerful in a world with online criticism. I'm trying to kill an idea before that idea truly becomes an issue, by pointing out that solarpunk is still dystopian.
TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •Mainly my issue is that I am simply not interested in nature and solarpunk works I've personally viewed have - at least by chance - been extremely anti-urbanist and anti-disability the first three times.
I have no issue with the environment being protected, only with valuing it at the expense of someone whose only place to be themselves used to be online. That isn't even a "me" thing, it's a "this work doesn't necessarily need a token disabled person, but you should design it so that disabled people will still be just as if not more able to function without being forced to make social connections IRL or on centralized social media or even (for now) federated social media" thing. The reason disabled people fantasize about VR worlds with superpowers is because if we had that power but were still ourselves, we'd feel like equals rather than "superior" because we'd have something people value us for.
I think the fediverse is a mistake. I shouldn't be here. You might think that just because I prefer FOSS that I would promote it, but it's been almost a year and Lemmy/etc. ar
... mehr anzeigenMainly my issue is that I am simply not interested in nature and solarpunk works I've personally viewed have - at least by chance - been extremely anti-urbanist and anti-disability the first three times.
I have no issue with the environment being protected, only with valuing it at the expense of someone whose only place to be themselves used to be online. That isn't even a "me" thing, it's a "this work doesn't necessarily need a token disabled person, but you should design it so that disabled people will still be just as if not more able to function without being forced to make social connections IRL or on centralized social media or even (for now) federated social media" thing. The reason disabled people fantasize about VR worlds with superpowers is because if we had that power but were still ourselves, we'd feel like equals rather than "superior" because we'd have something people value us for.
I think the fediverse is a mistake. I shouldn't be here. You might think that just because I prefer FOSS that I would promote it, but it's been almost a year and Lemmy/etc. are a bigger cesspool than reddit. Maybe Web³ is right, as far as VR is concerned. People who do hate reality are on whatever fledgeling metaverse platform they're on because the fediverse will never be like golden age reddit. We finished the Web in 2D and it's a corporate shithole. Time to move to a greener pasture...
TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •Reading this, I think most of the disparity in our views comes from where our view of solarpunk comes from as well as opinion toward nature. I have never engaged with any solarpunk works simply cause I never thought of them as relevant to the overall concept, I’ve only ever engaged with people.
And people as far as I am aware are in a sense anti-urbanist but not anti-cities, mostly just car infrastructure and other urban-specific environmentally hostile additions. In particular many of these individuals actually care a great deal about accessibility and are with greater frequency than other groups I’ve seen disabled themselves. I usually prefer to actually talk to people rather than refer to works unless those individuals specifically refer me to those works as representative. Otherwise you’re being unfair.
Also could you give examples of those works being anti-accessibility? It may be worth bringing up accessibility in this lemmy community in a separate post. Also can’t say I agree with the fediverse take, this place has been nothing but nice t
... mehr anzeigenReading this, I think most of the disparity in our views comes from where our view of solarpunk comes from as well as opinion toward nature. I have never engaged with any solarpunk works simply cause I never thought of them as relevant to the overall concept, I’ve only ever engaged with people.
And people as far as I am aware are in a sense anti-urbanist but not anti-cities, mostly just car infrastructure and other urban-specific environmentally hostile additions. In particular many of these individuals actually care a great deal about accessibility and are with greater frequency than other groups I’ve seen disabled themselves. I usually prefer to actually talk to people rather than refer to works unless those individuals specifically refer me to those works as representative. Otherwise you’re being unfair.
Also could you give examples of those works being anti-accessibility? It may be worth bringing up accessibility in this lemmy community in a separate post. Also can’t say I agree with the fediverse take, this place has been nothing but nice to me.
OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf TeryVeneno • • •The issue is mostly the type of disability. You have to realize mental disability is not visible unless you know what to look for and even then you're dealing with some strange and often self-hated traits. So while physical disability is accounted for, mental illness and especially mental trauma (abandonment issues, PTSD in my case) are simply not even recognized as existing.
In most solarpunk I've seen, the issue of permanent differences in how a person functions is simply never addressed, and it feels like a gentrification of the problem. "Maybe we should push the mentally-handicapped somewhere else!"
It hurts even more when you get the handicap after you're born. Most mental issues are genetic and so they have no reference point. I didn't ask to be fucking beaten by a foster father who smoked in the house and refused to be questioned. I didn't ask or deserve to be stolen from my family by corrupt government officials. I didn't ask to be beaten by a bully so hard that he went to juvie for it and I was bedridden for a month. If you want to improve life,
... mehr anzeigenThe issue is mostly the type of disability. You have to realize mental disability is not visible unless you know what to look for and even then you're dealing with some strange and often self-hated traits. So while physical disability is accounted for, mental illness and especially mental trauma (abandonment issues, PTSD in my case) are simply not even recognized as existing.
In most solarpunk I've seen, the issue of permanent differences in how a person functions is simply never addressed, and it feels like a gentrification of the problem. "Maybe we should push the mentally-handicapped somewhere else!"
It hurts even more when you get the handicap after you're born. Most mental issues are genetic and so they have no reference point. I didn't ask to be fucking beaten by a foster father who smoked in the house and refused to be questioned. I didn't ask or deserve to be stolen from my family by corrupt government officials. I didn't ask to be beaten by a bully so hard that he went to juvie for it and I was bedridden for a month. If you want to improve life, do it for people who have less than you without lowering anyone's standard of living. Otherwise you're asking for a world I cannot live in because I am a permanently-scarred psyche and I cannot support myself nor function in a community.
Don't get me wrong, inclusivity is bullshit. I only ask for a future I can rely on machines in, not one in which I would be doomed to die. I can see how being exposed to solarpunk via people first might make that something you didn't expect at least.
TeryVeneno
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •Damn, I’m sorry all that happened to you, I wish you the best in your life going forward. And I do have to say I don’t think anyone who is into solarpunk thinks those with mental disability should just be pushed aside and discarded. That would be almost antithetical to a concept so focused on improving the human condition.
That said, I could see where an emphasis on nature more in the goals could lead to people suggesting they want to take away the things you hold dear. However, I don’t think that’s the majority opinion of people into solarpunk nor do I believe you would be unable rely on machines in a solarpunk society. The whole goal of solarpunk is environmentally conscious technology not no technology. In fact I think most solarpunks would love a future that has the technology you would want. In other words I think your goals are in alignment if not complete agreement.
JacobCoffinWrites
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •Murder in the tool library
Edit: actually they feature even more prominently in the sequel #Missing Mermaid, where the investigators interview a full time gamer and possible witness who was streaming some kind of dark souls sequel near the dissapearance/possible kidnapping.
Also the rulebook for the TTRPG Fully Automated specific mentions that playing videogames full time is an accepted lifestyle in their post-scarcity society, and the contacts character stat tracks online contacts independently from offline, so you can make a character who has no Internet presence, or who lives entirely in games and basically only makes friends through videogames, or anywhere in between.
insomniac_lemon
Als Antwort auf OpenTTD • • •I'm a shut-in, with untreated health issues, someone who partakes in escapism, and even someone who likes the idea of programming but can't really do much (I tinkered on rendering polygons from text input last September and didn't even finish it enough to be usable for me).
I haven't seen much solarpunk but I've never thought to myself that it'd be worse for me. If I existed in an environment like that (particularly from birth or at least for a long time) I don't think I'd be the same escapist shut-in. I could see open-source games still existing, and maybe programming being better even if people are less likely to have videogames as their most common activity. I've taken care of already-growing plants before, but it seems to me like a lax solarpun
... mehr anzeigenI'm a shut-in, with untreated health issues, someone who partakes in escapism, and even someone who likes the idea of programming but can't really do much (I tinkered on rendering polygons from text input last September and didn't even finish it enough to be usable for me).
I haven't seen much solarpunk but I've never thought to myself that it'd be worse for me. If I existed in an environment like that (particularly from birth or at least for a long time) I don't think I'd be the same escapist shut-in. I could see open-source games still existing, and maybe programming being better even if people are less likely to have videogames as their most common activity. I've taken care of already-growing plants before, but it seems to me like a lax solarpunk environment would offer more options/opportunity than employment currently offers. Probably actual opportunity to travel, too.
Even carrying over my current mindset and (lack of) capability, I can't see a solarpunk environment being even half as restricted as my experience now. I mean the whole idea is better community and technology used to help people (not strictly for money) so it seems to me you wouldn't be required to garden.
OpenTTD
Als Antwort auf insomniac_lemon • • •To be fair, it seems like I may have had bad luck in the first three solarpunk works I ever experienced. My issue against the whole idea is "this is a society that can no longer afford to value non-practical pursuits, it is the future we are headed towards, therefore our present society can no longer afford to value non-practical pursuits" that was somehow in all three solarpunk works I encountered.
The three in question were Girl in Wave: Wave in Girl, the Necroverse by "RichM", and a story that a fair-weather friend wrote that I no longer have a copy of that showed a dystopian cybersolarpunk hybrid where "Covid-19 has ended the modern age and now everything is powered by wind turbines because most of us are dead".
As a result of such bad luck, I may have overestimated how central that theme of "self-sufficiency or die" is to the genre.
the16bitgamer
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •rainynight65
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •SpaceNoodle
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •SpaceCowboy
Als Antwort auf SpaceNoodle • • •Yeah I think it's been found that there is a sweet spot for income and happiness. Having billions of dollars won't make you any happier, but I think it's something around $120K per year that provides everything needed to have a happy life without having to stress much about paying the bills.
Unfortunately the vast majority of people fall way below the level of income needed that's necessary to be able to have a stress free long walk and a good conversation that's not about how to make ends meet, etc.
SpaceNoodle
Als Antwort auf SpaceCowboy • • •Blackmist
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Harbinger01173430
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •MonkderZweite
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •answersplease77
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •BargsimBoyz
Als Antwort auf answersplease77 • • •I didn't realize I needed money to sleep well... Or to have a slow morning... Or to listen to birds sing?
Even in third world countries you'd have this...
DillyDaily
Als Antwort auf BargsimBoyz • • •Hard to have a slow morning and day naps when you're rushing between two jobs because you don't have money.
If you had money, you could be more selective in finding work that provided the balance and flexibility needed to appreciate the things in life that are free.
But all of these things are too expensive when you're time-poor, and most people are time poor because they're desperately trying to avoid being financially poor.
BargsimBoyz
Als Antwort auf DillyDaily • • •We're talking about a very small amount of people who have to work multiple jobs 7 days a week, with many more poor people who don't do that.
And you didn't cover the birds singing, which you can do pretty much any place...
DillyDaily
Als Antwort auf BargsimBoyz • • •I think you're underestimating how much labour the global poor perform in a 24 hour period, 7 days a week.
But yes, many of these things can be possible if you prioritise them for your mental health, my point is just that it's not always easy to prioritise mental health when you're focused on physical survival.
But obviously, if you can include these things in your routine, you absolutely should, there are virtually no downsides.
BargsimBoyz
Als Antwort auf DillyDaily • • •I don't think I am actually.
I think it's almost impossible to miss every single one of these all the time. I have worked with the extremely poor, and watched documentaries of people in third world countries regularly. Most people even those who are literal third world slaves (indebted for life) can still regularly enjoy at least 2 of these things regularly.
I'm not saying it's not shit and that ideally everyone should experience all of them, but it's unrealistically cynical and nihilistic to think everyone poor is just miserable and doesn't enjoy anything.
TacoButtPlug
Als Antwort auf BargsimBoyz • • •BargsimBoyz
Als Antwort auf TacoButtPlug • • •Yeah I've lived out of home for close to 2 decades.
I think people here are being extremely dramatic if they say they never are able to sleep in or never have a chance to hear birds singing though, or to watch a sunset. That is absolute hyperbolic bullshit.
Unless this post is about doing it every day (which it isn't), then everyone gets to enjoy these luxuries at least semi-regularly.
ILikeBoobies
Als Antwort auf BargsimBoyz • • •NGC2346
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •dubyakay
Als Antwort auf NGC2346 • • •Ban DHMO 🇦🇺
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Als Antwort auf Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 • • •SoleInvictus
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Ban DHMO 🇦🇺
Als Antwort auf SoleInvictus • • •Ban DHMO 🇦🇺
Als Antwort auf SendMePhotos • • •blujan
Als Antwort auf Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 • • •We have made it so that having the freedom to choose, a most basic human need, feels like doing incorrect stuff.
Like, just choosing to leave a relationship subjects you to so much pain and hate that you'd rather not do it.
It sucks, but sadly a lot of these things are luxuries. Some are getting better but others worse (for example, there are less birds now than in the past, or at least it seems that way).
andri
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •TacoButtPlug
Als Antwort auf andri • • •Simon
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •𝗧𝗼𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 *𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑝𝑢𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •A Psalm for the Wild-Built - BookWyrm
bookwyrm.socialTheKingBee
Als Antwort auf 𝗧𝗼𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 *𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑝𝑢𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛 • • •Rob 🌱
Als Antwort auf TheKingBee • • •okasen
Als Antwort auf 𝗧𝗼𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 *𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑝𝑢𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛 • • •TacoButtPlug
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •ILikeBoobies
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •chiliedogg
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •Simon
Als Antwort auf chiliedogg • • •chiliedogg
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •That's half of "Science Fiction" so I'll start with that.
You looking for a series or something standalone?
Simon
Als Antwort auf chiliedogg • • •OhmsLawn
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •cheesymoonshadow
Als Antwort auf OhmsLawn • • •OhmsLawn
Als Antwort auf cheesymoonshadow • • •cheesymoonshadow
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Als Antwort auf OhmsLawn • • •Scrof
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •Simon
Als Antwort auf Scrof • • •zalgotext
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •If you're into fantasy, look into The Wheel of Time series. It's dense, absolutely packed with characters, and the world has a ton of detail. It's also 14 (rather large) books long, 15 if you count the prequel, so if you like it it'll keep you busy for a good long while.
If you've seen the Amazon series based on the books and were turned off by it, maybe give the books a try instead. The Amazon series doesn't do it justice, in my opinion.
cheesymoonshadow
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •If you like sci-fi, I recommend The Expanse books and novellas.
The audiobooks narrated by Jefferson Mays are also good, as is the TV series, though they tried to cram too much into the last season, IMO, without actually finishing the story. The ending in the books is tons better.
JasonDJ
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •delicious_justice
Als Antwort auf Simon • • •The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt! Really, all her books but this one especially.
And anything by David Mitchell, though my favorite is 1000 Autumns of Jacob de Zoet.
If you read these I hope you enjoy them as much as I did!
some pirate
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •okamiueru
Als Antwort auf some pirate • • •EssentialCoffee
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Steak
Als Antwort auf EssentialCoffee • • •TheKingBee
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •Busy maybe, but will the be entertained.
I read Moby Dick once and it was not enjoyable in the least. It is boring as fuck. Maybe it's imitating through prose the long monotonous stretches between whale sightings, but that's not an engaging read.
Simon
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •Pog
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •cumskin_genocide
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Obinice
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •fahrradmuesli
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •unphazed
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •okasen
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •The other morning my dogs woke me up way too damn early, but it meant I got to watch a very fat pigeon on the power line behind my house, and I got to see the finch population rapidly increase around it. (I swear I saw one little bird and by the time I got out of bed there were 5 jetting around. Pigeon did not move.)
I agree that these are luxuries for a lot of people. Some of them can be found with mindset shifts (from "fuck you dogs" to "oh look, pretty birds" for example) but it's also hard to shift your mindset to positivity when our society tries its damnedest to beat happiness out of you.
dolle
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •Dfy
Als Antwort auf stabby_cicada • • •BerenstainsMonster mag das.