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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 20th April 2025


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Als Antwort auf BlueMonday1984

LessWronger puts in the work and determines that LLMs can't spacially vizualize for shit, comments are like "well you're prompting it wrong" (paraphrased) as well as "why not pay experiences machinists to videotape what they're doing os their work can be automated"

lesswrong.com/posts/r3NeiHAEWy…

The article itself is worth reading for some insights in the challenges of using current "AI" (LLMs) to work in the real world.

Als Antwort auf gerikson

“why not pay experiences machinists to videotape what they’re doing os their work can be automated”


none of these people had a job in manufacturing, or even possibly any real job, it's called CNC and there are way better tools for making it work than stochastic parrot

e: ok at least op is a machinist

Interestingly, many of these models also score at or above the level of some human experts on visual reasoning benchmarks like MMMU. That which is easy to measure often doesn't correlate with real world usefulness.


benchmarks could be perhaps possibly fucked with? say it aint so!

My high level impression when reading the response is “someone who can parrot textbook knowledge but doesn’t know what they’re talking about”.


with corpus consisting of toy problems only, and with solutions that depending on field can kill whoever uses these

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Als Antwort auf fullsquare

The fact this commenter doesn't mention the absolute fuckton of machining videos on Youtube tells me they're just talking out of their ass.

(not that forcing those into LLM slop would help but a hypothetical AGI would learn a lot)

Also

Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic, recently worried about a world where only 30% of jobs become automated, leading to class tensions between the automated and non-automated. Instead, he predicts that nearly all jobs will be automated simultaneously, putting everyone "in the same boat."


Dario is delusional. We don't even have self driving cars outside of a very small, very expensive demo in SF

Als Antwort auf gerikson

I'd like to see him automating bed-turning a frail 90 year old in a nursing home so she doesn't get bed sores (ulcers—open wounds from lying on a creased sheet or just in the same position for too long). A 90yo with cognitive impairment who's scared of robots.
Als Antwort auf Charlie Stross

This doesn't sound promising: "A growing body of evidence is finding that robots tend to end up creating more work for caregivers"

technologyreview.com/2023/01/0…

Als Antwort auf BlueMonday1984

Sam Altman makes a great argument for being polite to your chatbot!

If every please and thank you speeds up the inevitable financial death spiral of this abominable industry then it's actively reducing the overall harm that it can do.