Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 20th April 2025
Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this...)
gerikson
Als Antwort auf BlueMonday1984 • • •LessWronger puts in the work and determines that LLMs can't spacially vizualize for shit, comments are like "well you're prompting it wrong" (paraphrased) as well as "why not pay experiences machinists to videotape what they're doing os their work can be automated"
lesswrong.com/posts/r3NeiHAEWy…
The article itself is worth reading for some insights in the challenges of using current "AI" (LLMs) to work in the real world.
Frontier AI Models Still Fail at Basic Physical Tasks: A Manufacturing Case Study
Adam Karvonen (www.lesswrong.com)fullsquare
Als Antwort auf gerikson • • •none of these people had a job in manufacturing, or even possibly any real job, it's called CNC and there are way better tools for making it work than stochastic parrot
e: ok at least op is a machinist
benchmarks could be perhaps possibly fucked with? say it aint so!
with corpus consisting of toy problems only, and with solutions that depending on field can kill whoever uses these
gerikson
Als Antwort auf fullsquare • • •The fact this commenter doesn't mention the absolute fuckton of machining videos on Youtube tells me they're just talking out of their ass.
(not that forcing those into LLM slop would help but a hypothetical AGI would learn a lot)
Also
Dario is delusional. We don't even have self driving cars outside of a very small, very expensive demo in SF
Charlie Stross
Als Antwort auf gerikson • • •Jon PENNYCOOK
Als Antwort auf Charlie Stross • • •This doesn't sound promising: "A growing body of evidence is finding that robots tend to end up creating more work for caregivers"
technologyreview.com/2023/01/0…
Inside Japan’s long experiment in automating elder care
James Wright (MIT Technology Review)YourNetworkIsHaunted
Als Antwort auf BlueMonday1984 • • •Sam Altman makes a great argument for being polite to your chatbot!
If every please and thank you speeds up the inevitable financial death spiral of this abominable industry then it's actively reducing the overall harm that it can do.
Sam Altman Admits That Saying "Please" and "Thank You" to ChatGPT Is Wasting Millions of Dollars in Computing Power
Joe Wilkins (Futurism)